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== Some articles ==
== Assessment drive ==


How are we gong to handle articles like [[Bhagavad Giita]], [[Tantra]], [[Veda]], [[Upanishad]]? Should we have these articles in Sarkarverse with Shrii Sarkar and AM's views and commentaries on it and after that it can be written "for more details, please see this Wikipedia article? <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 03:00, 16 June 2014 (MDT)
We need to start assessment drive. My hands are full at this moment. Someone else should be the co-ordinator. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 15:51, 29 November 2014 (UTC)


* We'll have our own articles. I'm sure that Baba has said more on these subjects than what you would find on Wikipedia. So we definitely would not have anything like a link to WP with "For more details". I think that once we have a few articles like this, the path forward will become clear. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 04:00, 16 June 2014 (MDT)
== Kolkata name and spelling ==


== Android ==
Three different names and spellings of Kolkata have been used in P. R. Sarkar's works (mentioning places)— Calcutta (old city name), Kolkata (current name), Kalikata (Roman Sanskrit). We may use anyone, "Kolkata" preferably? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 03:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)
: I prefer Kolkata. Kalikata would be confusing, and Calcutta is not current. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
* So do I. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


i am using this website using android device. But i feel it will be excellent if we get an android app like wikipedia.--<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 21:07, 20 June 2014 (MDT)
== Infobox problem  ==


== Archive.is ==
{{Hatnote|Please move it to Project:Infobox after creating it.}}
There has been a confusion:<br/>
If articles like [[Parama Purusa]], [[Aeshvarya]], [[Relationship with Parama Purusa]], [[Tandava]], [[Yatamana]], [[Yoga]], [[Tantra]] and all other concepts go under "Literary" then [[Template:Infobox Literary Works]] should be used. The problem is, however, it actually based on book, and does not match a single parameter with these articles. We, therefore, may require a child infobox— [[Template:Infobox Literary concepts]]. or something so. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 07:27, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
: Those are not literary. How could a dance or yoga or tantra or an occult power... much less Parama Purusa... be literary? They are non-literary works that also happen to be mentioned in various books. This is the very reason why Prabhat Samgiita is classified as a non-literary work, that is, it transcends the literary field. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 07:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
:* Nonliterary work has these parameters. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 07:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
:: I don't understand your point. Items that are not people or foundations and cannot be pigeonholed as literary are classified as non-literary (even when there is a literary component). --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
:::* Namaskar, thank you for your reply. I mean "Nonliterary" infobox has these/required parameters already, so there should not be any confusion. BTW, you may see this discussion, where new parameters have been proposed: [[Template_talk:Infobox_Nonliterary_Works#More_parameter_suggestion]] --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:25, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
:::: Okay, that sounds good. Regarding proposed additional parameters, I'd rather add parameters as the need for them is felt, rather than spending much time speculating on what might be required. It is easy enough to add a parameter or two, and I don't mind if there is a little bit of inconsistency in respect to how much information is presented in infoboxes for similar topics. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:38, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::::: Namaskar, thank you once again for your reply and you suggestion. I want to inform you what you have suggested, exactly the same is being done. I am suggesting new parameters only when I am feeling its necessity, as you are aware I am working in infobox section (for Prabhat Samgita, I needed "period", for "Parama Purusa", I needed "In other languages)". Yesterday,I copyedited that section and removed signatures after each entry to keep things clean.<br/>Please note, if we keep changing parameters after adding the infobox in many articles, that will add more tasks to copyedit the existing  usages. Regards. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::: As I said, I don't mind a little bit of inconsistency in respect to how much information is presented in infoboxes for similar topics. So, in my opinion, the addition of parameters in an infobox template does not compel any revision of earlier usages of that infobox. It merely enables enhancement of the infobox in any future edits of existing articles. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


[http://archive.today/ Archive.is] URLs were banned from Wikipedia [[:Wikipedia:Wikipedia:Archive.is RFC|with an accusation]] that owners are using bots to flood Wikipedia with their links. Many people including me, think this is an excellent site. Should we use that at Sarkarverse? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:12, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
== Infobox project ==
:I have no idea on this. But if there is a chance that it will flood Sarkarverse with links, I would lean toward No. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 05:08, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
{{Hatnote|Please move it to Project:Infobox after creating it.}}
:* No, they will not target a small project.Wikipedia is a different thing.The allegation was not proved too. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 05:37, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
We need to start infobox project which will be different from [[SV:P]]. In Wikipedia it is called WikiProject, see [[:wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes]]..
* We may try SVProject, but that will duplicate SV in shortcut, or call it "Project" only.  
* We may create a separate project space Project:
--<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 07:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)


[[Category:Central discussion forum]]
: I don't understand the issue. What's wrong with SVProject or WikiProject? --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:15, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
* Namaskar, thank you for your reply. SVProject might be okay, but so far we are using SV for shortcut. Let's see how it sounds [[Sarkarverse:SVProject infoboxes]]. WikiProject sounds like a Wikipedia-based title. Regards. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


== Uci, Nici redirect ==
: "SV:SVProject infoboxes" seems like overkill. What would be the problem with "SV:Project infoboxes" or "SVproject:Infoboxes"? As for "WikiProject" sounding like a Wikipedia title, I don't have an issue with that. Sarkarverse is a wikipedia, and its software is wiki software. We have a whole area of Sarkarverse that is prefixed with "MediaWiki". So I don't think that any confusion arises with an area called "WikiProject". But if you feel otherwise, then use "SVproject" or "SV:Project ". --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 06:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
::* Namaskar, Acarya Ji, thanks once again for your reply. Let me directly tell you right now, I am more and mainly interested to host the "Infobox project". I am giving you few rationales: I am seeing a) we already have Infobox book, which is a duplicate of Infobox Literary works. b) we have infobox website, I am not sure about its position, should it be "organization". That may need a discussion (please do not delete these templates now, as these may break few articles, I am tracking these. Don't answer these questions here too, as there are many more such questions, we'll discuss all later), there are more such queries and discussions. Of course we may discuss here, but, <u>I feel</u> it would be  better if we start the infobox project, as infobox has become a task of high priority. And for that I need to know where actually should I start this work. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
: Fine. Start the project. Call it "SVproject:Infoboxes" or "WikiProject:Infoboxes" or just "Project:Infoboxes". Any of those three should work okay over the long term. As for existing infoboxes, I am not tampering with them. They may remain. As I said, I'm not overly worried about a little bit of inconsistency in respect to infoboxes as long as all of the infoboxes relating to the mainspace contain an SVmap. Regarding websites, the SVmap/infobox would be determined by the nature of the site, specifically, whether it is the website of a person or a foundation (organization). In most cases, the website would simply be a reference (possibly also included in the infobox) in an article on the person or foundation. But, if there is a need for a separate article on the subject of the website itself, then the infobox would be derived from the nature of the website's association (with a person or with a foundation). --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 07:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
:* Namaskar, thanks for your suggestion. But none of these is possible at this moment. Anything including a colon (i.e. ''':''') will require a new namespeace, for example [[Project:Infoboxes]]. Please see [[:mw:Manual:Using custom namespaces]]. Currently only these are possible: [[Sarkarverse:SVproject Infoboxes]] etc. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 07:48, 11 December 2014 (UTC)


There has been some confusions over having uci and nici redirects.I have been keeping these redirects. For example, [http://sarkarverse.org/index.php?title=Infant%27s_J%C3%A1takarma:_The_Naming_of_and_First_Feeding_of_Solid_Food_to_an_Infant&action=edit&redlink=1 this redirct]. So far, according to our consensus, articles titles will not have uci, nici, but article body may contain special characters, and if a title with uci/nici/special characters is linked in article body, a redirect will be required. In addition, please check "what links here" before deleting redirects/any page as it breaks many links. <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 05:43, 10 September 2014 (UTC)
::: As I said, "SV:SVproject" is overkill (i.e. redundant). Better then to have "SV:Project" or "SV:WikiProject" or "SV:Infobox". --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 07:59, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
* I have got some more information— 10,000 redirects will take less than 2.5 MB space. So the space redirects take is almost negotiable. <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 12:43, 12 September 2014 (UTC)


::It's less about size than just clutter in our search engine. When a user starts searching and sees two or three similarly titled articles, one after another, it can be confusing. Even if it's not confusing, it's pointless. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 12:58, 12 September 2014 (UTC)
== Copyvio ==


; How to link?
[http://edition.anandamarga.guru/ This] seems to be a copyvio --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 08:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)
This is becoming more confusing. Example: I am unsure how to link "Nirguna bhakti" in the second line of the "Description" section [http://sarkarverse.org/index.php?title=Jinanamishra_bhakti&oldid=29160 here]. If I link general Roman text, it becomes inconsistent with other Roman Sanskrit inclusions in article body (as we are allowing Roman Sanskrit in article body, and if I link Roman Sanskrit [[Nirguńa bhakti]], it'll require a redirect. <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 10:03, 13 September 2014 (UTC)
:Sorry, but I don't understand the issue. I can link [[Nirguna bhakti|nirguńa bhakti]] without a redirect (other than what is usual when the words that are linked don't match the article title. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 07:15, 14 September 2014 (UTC)


== Color scheme ==
== Protection against system installed adwares ==


We need to plan color sceheme of the headers of the [[Main page]], as we have in [[:Bn:Main page]] --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 14:34, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
Here at ''Swatantra'' after using several computers, laptops, now I am seeing (what I felt previously as well), we are lacking protection against user-system adwares. Sites like Wikipedia have protection against it. Sarkarverse, however is filled with ads in an affected system. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 09:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC) (from seminar laptop)
:Our main page has a color scheme. It is a simple color scheme. Personally, I prefer a simple color scheme (less colors or one color rather than more colors). But that is a personal matter. Some persons obviously prefer many colors. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 04:49, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
:* what's about RYBG (red yellow blue green) colour scheme or something different? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 20:43, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
::*Personally, I prefer a single color. But do what you like. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 01:51, 14 October 2014 (UTC)


== Motto ==
== Skin test ==


''[[Atma moksartham jagat hitaya ca]]'' is the motto of [[Ananda Marga Pracaraka Samgha]] and few other organizations as well.I propose to make it the "motto" of Sarkarverse as well. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 16:36, 12 October 2014 (UTC)
As MW has seeral by default skins, we need to check main page and other two three important pages' appearance in other skins. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 15:24, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:We already have a description ("The wikipedia of all things Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar"). What additional benefit would Sarkarverse derive from a separate "motto", and where would it appear? And, even if a motto were to offer some concrete benefit in respect to Sarkarverse, it might be deemed presumptuous (if not confusing) for us to assign to Sarkarverse the same motto as that of AMPS. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 04:54, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
* Vector is fine. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 15:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)
:* I was not talking about "tagline", I was talking about a separate page [[Sarkarverse:Motto]] to clarify the project's aspects and objectives. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 20:42, 13 October 2014 (UTC)
 
::*I understood that. But I think the tagline adequately defines the projects aspects and objectives. The purpose of Sarkarverse is to present a wikipedia of all things Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar. And if anyone wants or requires amplification about the Sarkarverse mission, they can go to the About page. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 02:05, 14 October 2014 (UTC)
== Footer and more ==
* If you do not have strict objection, I once again request to make it this our motto. This Sanskrit line perfectly expresses our mission and goal. When we work for Sarkarverse, we have two-fold missions (at least I DEFINITELY have this): a) our own spiritual elevation and b) create the BEST site on Shrii Sarkar's works, that anyone can read and utilize for free.<br/>It does not demand much. All it needs is just a page like [[Sarkarverse:Motto]] where we'll mention it with other details. I am not asking to place it on the Main Page or anywhere else. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:45, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
 
::The purpose of Sarkarverse is summed up in "the wikipedia of all things Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar". Our goal is not "liberation of self". We do not offer the sufficient tools for that. We perform a very specific educational service. And that service is subsumed within the mission of our legal sponsor, AmRevolution, Inc. - "to propagate the progressive ideas of Prabhat Ranjan Sarkar through various media, including an on-line encyclopedia, books, films, seminars, and the like". So, yes, I do object. Adoption of a motto like that of Ananda Marga would be both presumptuous and misleading. On top of that, I still question our need for any motto at all. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 05:51, 28 November 2014 (UTC)
* [[Sarkarverse:General disclaimer]] might have some good scope to add general disclaimers.
::* I am {{Smiley|sad}} --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 11:44, 29 November 2014 (UTC)
* At footer (any page), [[Sarkarverse:Privacy policy]] may be revisited also.
* Possibly we can remove the "MediaWiki developer" link?
* A "Copyright" of content of this website should be a good information for the readers that how to use content of the website. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 21:44, 4 June 2020 (BST)
 
:: All good points to be considered. The General Disclaimer and Privacy Policy links are not very helpful as they stand. Regarding the MediaWiki developer link, I don't have any problem with it. The underlying software was developed by MediaWiki; so I think it only courteous to leave it there. As to copyright, I'm not sure what more needs or should be done. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 22:06, 5 June 2020 (BST)
::About copyright, what is the license of the content of this website (all the articles)? Are these under any free license (CC-SA or CC-SA-non-commercial etc, there are various licenses) or "all rights reserved"? Generally it is placed at the bottom of a website page with a link to a page with more details.<br>Other things you mentioned such as MediaWiki link removal are to be changed from localsettings.php most possible ([[:mw:Manual:Footer]]). --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:32, 6 June 2020 (BST)
::: About courtesy to MediaWiki, yes, we can keep it, although icon at right bottom side of a page mentions that the site is powered by MediaWiki. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:37, 6 June 2020 (BST)

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Assessment drive

We need to start assessment drive. My hands are full at this moment. Someone else should be the co-ordinator. --Tito☸Dutta 15:51, 29 November 2014 (UTC)

Kolkata name and spelling

Three different names and spellings of Kolkata have been used in P. R. Sarkar's works (mentioning places)— Calcutta (old city name), Kolkata (current name), Kalikata (Roman Sanskrit). We may use anyone, "Kolkata" preferably? --Tito☸Dutta 03:13, 4 December 2014 (UTC)

I prefer Kolkata. Kalikata would be confusing, and Calcutta is not current. --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:13, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • So do I. --Tito☸Dutta 06:17, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Infobox problem

Please move it to Project:Infobox after creating it.

There has been a confusion:
If articles like Parama Purusa, Aeshvarya, Relationship with Parama Purusa, Tandava, Yatamana, Yoga, Tantra and all other concepts go under "Literary" then Template:Infobox Literary Works should be used. The problem is, however, it actually based on book, and does not match a single parameter with these articles. We, therefore, may require a child infobox— Template:Infobox Literary concepts. or something so. --Tito☸Dutta 07:27, 8 December 2014 (UTC)

Those are not literary. How could a dance or yoga or tantra or an occult power... much less Parama Purusa... be literary? They are non-literary works that also happen to be mentioned in various books. This is the very reason why Prabhat Samgiita is classified as a non-literary work, that is, it transcends the literary field. --Abhidevananda (talk) 07:34, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Nonliterary work has these parameters. --Tito☸Dutta 07:57, 8 December 2014 (UTC)
I don't understand your point. Items that are not people or foundations and cannot be pigeonholed as literary are classified as non-literary (even when there is a literary component). --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Okay, that sounds good. Regarding proposed additional parameters, I'd rather add parameters as the need for them is felt, rather than spending much time speculating on what might be required. It is easy enough to add a parameter or two, and I don't mind if there is a little bit of inconsistency in respect to how much information is presented in infoboxes for similar topics. --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:38, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Namaskar, thank you once again for your reply and you suggestion. I want to inform you what you have suggested, exactly the same is being done. I am suggesting new parameters only when I am feeling its necessity, as you are aware I am working in infobox section (for Prabhat Samgita, I needed "period", for "Parama Purusa", I needed "In other languages)". Yesterday,I copyedited that section and removed signatures after each entry to keep things clean.
Please note, if we keep changing parameters after adding the infobox in many articles, that will add more tasks to copyedit the existing usages. Regards. --Tito☸Dutta 06:45, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
As I said, I don't mind a little bit of inconsistency in respect to how much information is presented in infoboxes for similar topics. So, in my opinion, the addition of parameters in an infobox template does not compel any revision of earlier usages of that infobox. It merely enables enhancement of the infobox in any future edits of existing articles. --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:57, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Infobox project

Please move it to Project:Infobox after creating it.

We need to start infobox project which will be different from SV:P. In Wikipedia it is called WikiProject, see wikipedia:Wikipedia:WikiProject Infoboxes..

  • We may try SVProject, but that will duplicate SV in shortcut, or call it "Project" only.
  • We may create a separate project space Project:

--Tito☸Dutta 07:15, 10 December 2014 (UTC)

I don't understand the issue. What's wrong with SVProject or WikiProject? --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:15, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Namaskar, thank you for your reply. SVProject might be okay, but so far we are using SV for shortcut. Let's see how it sounds Sarkarverse:SVProject infoboxes. WikiProject sounds like a Wikipedia-based title. Regards. --Tito☸Dutta 06:20, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
"SV:SVProject infoboxes" seems like overkill. What would be the problem with "SV:Project infoboxes" or "SVproject:Infoboxes"? As for "WikiProject" sounding like a Wikipedia title, I don't have an issue with that. Sarkarverse is a wikipedia, and its software is wiki software. We have a whole area of Sarkarverse that is prefixed with "MediaWiki". So I don't think that any confusion arises with an area called "WikiProject". But if you feel otherwise, then use "SVproject" or "SV:Project ". --Abhidevananda (talk) 06:46, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
  • Namaskar, Acarya Ji, thanks once again for your reply. Let me directly tell you right now, I am more and mainly interested to host the "Infobox project". I am giving you few rationales: I am seeing a) we already have Infobox book, which is a duplicate of Infobox Literary works. b) we have infobox website, I am not sure about its position, should it be "organization". That may need a discussion (please do not delete these templates now, as these may break few articles, I am tracking these. Don't answer these questions here too, as there are many more such questions, we'll discuss all later), there are more such queries and discussions. Of course we may discuss here, but, I feel it would be better if we start the infobox project, as infobox has become a task of high priority. And for that I need to know where actually should I start this work. --Tito☸Dutta 06:55, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
Fine. Start the project. Call it "SVproject:Infoboxes" or "WikiProject:Infoboxes" or just "Project:Infoboxes". Any of those three should work okay over the long term. As for existing infoboxes, I am not tampering with them. They may remain. As I said, I'm not overly worried about a little bit of inconsistency in respect to infoboxes as long as all of the infoboxes relating to the mainspace contain an SVmap. Regarding websites, the SVmap/infobox would be determined by the nature of the site, specifically, whether it is the website of a person or a foundation (organization). In most cases, the website would simply be a reference (possibly also included in the infobox) in an article on the person or foundation. But, if there is a need for a separate article on the subject of the website itself, then the infobox would be derived from the nature of the website's association (with a person or with a foundation). --Abhidevananda (talk) 07:08, 11 December 2014 (UTC)
As I said, "SV:SVproject" is overkill (i.e. redundant). Better then to have "SV:Project" or "SV:WikiProject" or "SV:Infobox". --Abhidevananda (talk) 07:59, 11 December 2014 (UTC)

Copyvio

This seems to be a copyvio --Tito☸Dutta 08:39, 15 December 2014 (UTC)

Protection against system installed adwares

Here at Swatantra after using several computers, laptops, now I am seeing (what I felt previously as well), we are lacking protection against user-system adwares. Sites like Wikipedia have protection against it. Sarkarverse, however is filled with ads in an affected system. --Tito☸Dutta 09:26, 19 December 2014 (UTC) (from seminar laptop)

Skin test

As MW has seeral by default skins, we need to check main page and other two three important pages' appearance in other skins. --Tito☸Dutta 15:24, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

  • Vector is fine. --Tito☸Dutta 15:25, 24 December 2014 (UTC)

Footer and more

  • Sarkarverse:General disclaimer might have some good scope to add general disclaimers.
  • At footer (any page), Sarkarverse:Privacy policy may be revisited also.
  • Possibly we can remove the "MediaWiki developer" link?
  • A "Copyright" of content of this website should be a good information for the readers that how to use content of the website. --Tito☸Dutta 21:44, 4 June 2020 (BST)
All good points to be considered. The General Disclaimer and Privacy Policy links are not very helpful as they stand. Regarding the MediaWiki developer link, I don't have any problem with it. The underlying software was developed by MediaWiki; so I think it only courteous to leave it there. As to copyright, I'm not sure what more needs or should be done. --Abhidevananda (talk) 22:06, 5 June 2020 (BST)
About copyright, what is the license of the content of this website (all the articles)? Are these under any free license (CC-SA or CC-SA-non-commercial etc, there are various licenses) or "all rights reserved"? Generally it is placed at the bottom of a website page with a link to a page with more details.
Other things you mentioned such as MediaWiki link removal are to be changed from localsettings.php most possible (mw:Manual:Footer). --Tito☸Dutta 06:32, 6 June 2020 (BST)
About courtesy to MediaWiki, yes, we can keep it, although icon at right bottom side of a page mentions that the site is powered by MediaWiki. --Tito☸Dutta 06:37, 6 June 2020 (BST)
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