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<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:47, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | <span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:47, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | ||
* It may form a guideline here. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:48, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | * It may form a guideline here. --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 01:48, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | ||
**For the second, a title, I always use the uppercase when referring to a specific individual (Acarya Soandsoanananda Avadhuta) and | **For the second, a title, I always use the uppercase when referring to a specific individual (Acarya Soandsoanananda Avadhuta) and the lowercase when referring to the order or status ("He is an acarya" or "Some nuns are avadhutikas"). | ||
::For the first, I mostly use the lowercase. I would always capitalise both the A and the M in "Ananda Marga" and "Ananda Margii". So when using the word 'margii' in the somewhat exclusive sense of being an "Ananda Margii" - in other words, when "margii" becomes a shortened version of "Ananda Margii" - then, similar to words like "Christian" or "Hindu", the upper case becomes acceptable (although I would still tend to use the lower-case). However, if we think of being a margii as the equivalent of being a spiritual aspirant or a spiritual seeker, then only the lowercase would be appropriate. So this is somewhat context dependent and a bit flexible. | ::For the first, I mostly use the lowercase. I would always capitalise both the A and the M in "Ananda Marga" and "Ananda Margii". So when using the word 'margii' in the somewhat exclusive sense of being an "Ananda Margii" - in other words, when "margii" becomes a shortened version of "Ananda Margii" - then, similar to words like "Christian" or "Hindu", the upper case becomes acceptable (although I would still tend to use the lower-case). However, if we think of being a margii as the equivalent of being a spiritual aspirant or a spiritual seeker, then only the lowercase would be appropriate. So this is somewhat context dependent and a bit flexible. | ||
::There is another issue, and that is the spelling of "margii". Technically, the word should have two 'i's at the end, similar to "yogii". However, in many newspapers and perhaps even dictionaries, we find a single 'i'. My preference is to use two 'i's, regardless of the current popular convention. On Sarkarverse, we don't blindly parrot whatever is written elsewhere. Our priority is to present both accurate and verifiable information. We do not want to present information that is merely verifiable but easily shown to be inaccurate. For example, "So-and-so wrote this about such-and-such" might be a 100% accurate statement; but if what So-and-so wrote is also demonstrably (verifiably) wrong, we won't publish it without also presenting the correct information. That type of information - someone's incorrect comment - is valuable in a critiques or commentaries section at the end of an article; but, typically, it should not be presented in the main body (earlier sections) of the article. (Of course, if the article is about the person who made the incorrect observations, then that incorrect information might appear in the main body, though there would also be a caution that the information is wrong.) --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 21:13, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | ::There is another issue, and that is the spelling of "margii". Technically, the word should have two 'i's at the end, similar to "yogii". However, in many newspapers and perhaps even dictionaries, we find a single 'i'. My preference is to use two 'i's, regardless of the current popular convention. On Sarkarverse, we don't blindly parrot whatever is written elsewhere. Our priority is to present both accurate and verifiable information. We do not want to present information that is merely verifiable but easily shown to be inaccurate. For example, "So-and-so wrote this about such-and-such" might be a 100% accurate statement; but if what So-and-so wrote is also demonstrably (verifiably) wrong, we won't publish it without also presenting the correct information. That type of information - someone's incorrect comment - is valuable in a critiques or commentaries section at the end of an article; but, typically, it should not be presented in the main body (earlier sections) of the article. (Of course, if the article is about the person who made the incorrect observations, then that incorrect information might appear in the main body, though there would also be a caution that the information is wrong.) --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 21:13, 18 June 2014 (MDT) | ||
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== Equivalent: 01 == | |||
I am preparing or collecting references for few Buddha-Jesus-Vivekananda equivalent articles for Sarkarverse. [http://www.swamivivekanandaquotes.org/2014/10/give-and-take-is-law-of-nature.html Here] is an article on "Give and take". I want to know which discourses or works of P. R. Sarkar's works discuss these things (or something related to these).<br/>I'll develop articles ideas from this.<br/>Slightly off: I feel, this is a major problem of Sarkarverse. We are just approaching people as "beggar" (eg. "we have a project, please edit/join there"). The responses have been minimal so far, because "give and take is the law". --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 07:24, 25 November 2014 (UTC) | |||
== Faith == | |||
Namaskar, I am planning an article on "Faith". What should be the title [[Faith]] or [[Shraddha]] or something else? --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 06:38, 11 December 2014 (UTC) | |||
: Don't know. Faith has many meanings in English. There can be blind faith or informed faith, tentative faith or constant faith. Ultimately in spiritual life, faith is not the goal but rather a starting point. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 18:07, 11 January 2019 (GMT) | |||
== MOS:Italics consistency == | |||
We can make consistent use of italics for song and book titles. | |||
''' Example 1'''<br/> | |||
Article: [[:Mama madhavii kuinje puinje puinje]], article title and first sentence of the lead use ''italic'', however infobox header, and at the bottom of the page succession box don't use italics. (this is applicable is many other PS songs). The list article [[:List of songs of Prabhat Samgiita]] uses italics. | |||
''' Example 2'''<br/> | |||
Similar for "[[:Leaving Bondage]]". | |||
Perhaps we can use of italics in a consistent way --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 09:52, 24 December 2018 (GMT) | |||
: I agree that there should be consistency. Where do you see inconsistency? --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 18:07, 11 January 2019 (GMT) | |||
== PAGENAME == | |||
<nowiki>{{PAGENAME}}</nowiki> use is discouraged in MW. Please use <nowiki>{{subst:PAGENAME}}</nowiki> --<span style="background:orange;border:orange ridge">[[User:Tito Dutta|Tito]]</span><span style="color:blue;background:white;otit;border-bottom-style:ridge;">☸</span><span style="background:#57C738;border:green ridge">[[User talk:Tito Dutta|Dutta]]</span> 09:54, 24 December 2018 (GMT) | |||
: Certainly this makes sense. For my part, with the PS song articles, I follow this rule with the lead. That helps with promoting the article in Web search engines. However, there are a few other {{PAGENAME}} placeholders that I leave as is. That is because of the naming convention used on Sarkarverse for the songs (and their articles). Because I prefer not to add the song number to the article title, we end up with the possibility of many songs subsequently requiring disambiguation. And having the placeholder makes it easier to clean up articles after disambiguation. Once all 5018 songs are up and the likelihood of moving articles for disambiguation purposes is reduced, I can quickly replace all of the pagename placeholder with subst:pagename through a global replace action. (By the way, another problem with adding numbers to the title of the song article would be that those numbers would turn up with every automated reference to a song in the article, which I think would be clunky.) A similar logic would apply to the Ananda Vacanamrtam articles, although it is true that the pagename placeholder in the succession box could be replaced with a subst:pagename once it appears in wiki:main, but that might also introduce issues due to the way these articles are currently getting posted. --[[User:Abhidevananda|Abhidevananda]] ([[User talk:Abhidevananda|talk]]) 18:20, 11 January 2019 (GMT) | |||