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"Page number(s)" can be a single page number (287), several (xii, 287, 292, 418) or a range (287–88) or any combination thereof.  Do not add "Page", "pp.", etc.—just the numbers.  Of course, it can also be used for non-numeric pages, for example: "f. 29", "A7", and "back cover", etc., and can also be used for non-paginated sources, e.g., "0:35:12" for a video source.
"Page number(s)" can be a single page number (287), several (xii, 287, 292, 418) or a range (287–88) or any combination thereof.  Do not add "Page", "pp.", etc.—just the numbers.  Of course, it can also be used for non-numeric pages, for example: "f. 29", "A7", and "back cover", etc., and can also be used for non-paginated sources, e.g., "0:35:12" for a video source.


This template is for appending page numbers in [[WP:HARV|Harvard referencing]] style (or [[AMA style]]<!--HELP! Is there some alt. term for AMA style? It is a redlink!-->, as an option &ndash; ''see "[[#With parentheses|With parentheses]]", below'') to [[WP:FN|Cite.php-generated inline reference citations]].  It is a solution for the problem of an article with a source that must be cited many, many times, at numerous different pages. It is an alternative to the more common method of using [[WP:CITESHORT|shortened footnotes]], that does not require the reader to follow two links to see the source. The Cite.php <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code> footnoting system is desired to be used instead of the incredibly tedious and easy-to-break {{tl|ref label}} and {{tl|note label}} system (tedious and fragile in ''this'' context; the templates are not terribly difficult to use and are quite useful in other situations).   
This template is for appending page numbers in [[SV:HARV|Harvard referencing]] style (or [[AMA style]]<!--HELP! Is there some alt. term for AMA style? It is a redlink!-->, as an option &ndash; ''see "[[#With parentheses|With parentheses]]", below'') to [[SV:FN|Cite.php-generated inline reference citations]].  It is a solution for the problem of an article with a source that must be cited many, many times, at numerous different pages. It is an alternative to the more common method of using [[SV:CITESHORT|shortened footnotes]], that does not require the reader to follow two links to see the source. The Cite.php <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code> footnoting system is desired to be used instead of the incredibly tedious and easy-to-break {{tl|ref label}} and {{tl|note label}} system (tedious and fragile in ''this'' context; the templates are not terribly difficult to use and are quite useful in other situations).   


The problem of course is that a work cited 100+ times with page numbers in each appearance, with individual <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code>'s will result in more than 100 lines generated for the same source by <code><nowiki><references&nbsp;/></nowiki></code> (or {{tl|Reflist}}),<sup>&#91;[[#note1|*note]]&#93;</sup> while using a single <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...>...</ref></nowiki></code> and followup <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...&nbsp;/></nowiki></code>'s with the same <code>name=</code> and simply mentioning all of the pages cited, in the single line generated by <code><nowiki><references&nbsp;/></nowiki></code> could result in at least 100 pages being specifically cited in a single reference citation footnote, rendering it basically unreadable and certainly useless.  Given that [[WP:FA|Featured Article]] and sometimes even [[WP:GA|Good Article]] review generally insist upon specific facts being cited with specific page numbers, Cite.php's limitations are in fact a severe problem for editors.  Even more importantly, either of the two results above is a severe problem for encyclopedia readers.   
The problem of course is that a work cited 100+ times with page numbers in each appearance, with individual <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code>'s will result in more than 100 lines generated for the same source by <code><nowiki><references&nbsp;/></nowiki></code> (or {{tl|Reflist}}),<sup>&#91;[[#note1|*note]]&#93;</sup> while using a single <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...>...</ref></nowiki></code> and followup <code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...&nbsp;/></nowiki></code>'s with the same <code>name=</code> and simply mentioning all of the pages cited, in the single line generated by <code><nowiki><references&nbsp;/></nowiki></code> could result in at least 100 pages being specifically cited in a single reference citation footnote, rendering it basically unreadable and certainly useless.  Given that [[SV:FA|Featured Article]] and sometimes even [[SV:GA|Good Article]] review generally insist upon specific facts being cited with specific page numbers, Cite.php's limitations are in fact a severe problem for editors.  Even more importantly, either of the two results above is a severe problem for encyclopedia readers.   


This template solves this problem (perhaps temporarily, as Cite.php may be upgraded at some future date to account for this problem, in which case a bot can be created to convert {{tl|Rp}} instances to the new, improved "Super-<code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code>").
This template solves this problem (perhaps temporarily, as Cite.php may be upgraded at some future date to account for this problem, in which case a bot can be created to convert {{tl|Rp}} instances to the new, improved "Super-<code><nowiki><ref&nbsp;...></nowiki></code>").
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==See also==
==See also==
* [[WP:CITESHORT|Shortened footnotes]] in [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]], which describes the most common way of citing multiple pages of the same source.
* [[SV:CITESHORT|Shortened footnotes]] in [[Wikipedia:Citing sources]], which describes the most common way of citing multiple pages of the same source.
* {{tl|sfn}}, a template that implements the most common way of citing multiple pages of the same source.
* {{tl|sfn}}, a template that implements the most common way of citing multiple pages of the same source.


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